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Family: Thomas of Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, Marshall of England / Alice de Hales (F2186)  [1, 2

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  • Male
    Thomas of Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, Marshall of England

    Birth  1 Jun 1300  Brotherton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Death  23 Aug 1338  Framlingham, Suffolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Burial    Bury St Edmunds Abbey, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Marriage  1321  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]  Bungay Castle, Bungay, Suffolk, England  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] Find all individuals with events at this location
    Other Spouse  Mary de Braose, Countess of Norfolk | F2189 
    Marriage  1334   
    Father  Edward I, King of England | F2190 Group Sheet 
    Mother  Marguerite of France | F2190 Group Sheet 

    Female
    Alice de Hales

    Birth  1305   
    Death  Before 12 Oct 1330  England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Burial     
    Father  Sir Roger de Hales | F2191 Group Sheet 
    Mother  Alice Skogan | F2191 Group Sheet 

    Female
    Margaret de Botherton, Duchess of Norfolk

    Birth  Abt 1322   
    Death  24 Mar 1398/99   
    Burial    Christ Church Greyfriars, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Spouse  John de Segrave, Lord Segrave | F2181 
    Marriage  1334   
    Spouse  Sir Walter de Mauny | F2185 
    Marriage  1353   

    Male
    Edward de Botherton

    Birth  Abt 1323   
    Death  Aug 1334   
    Burial     
    Spouse  Beatrice Mortimer | F8185 
    Marriage  1329   

    Female
    Alice de Botherton, Lady of Bungay

    Birth  1324   
    Death  1352   
    Burial     
    Spouse  Sir Edward Montagu | F8186 
    Marriage  1337   

  • Notes  Married:
    • "And the said Thomas Brodirton, Erle of Norfolke, cam dawn into Norfolke and ther he wedded a knyght's daughter fast by Bungey." So writes 19th-century Norfolk historian Francis Blomefield (1808), quoting an ancient manuscript from the Book of Pleas.

      Alice Hales brought nothing to her marriage save her beauty. She was not the heiress of the Hales manors, as she had a brother, and the Hales family would have supported of the young earl of Norfolk whether or not he married Alice, since he was their feudal overlord. On Thomas's end, there was no political or territorial advantage to the marriage - it was a love match, pure and simple. [2]

  • Sources 
    1. [S59] Weis, Frederick Lewis. Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England Between 1623 and 1650 Fifth Editionif, (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1982).

    2. [S1453] Verity, Brad. "Love Matches and Contracted Misery: Thomas of Botherton and His Daughters (Part 1)" , (Vowchurch, UK: Foundations: Journal of the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, volume 2, number 2, July 2006).

    3. [S517] Reed, Paul C. and Dorothy E. Hopkins. "The Identity of Anne Gifford, Wife of Thomas Goddard: Correcting the Royal Ancestry of the Immigrant William Goddard" , (Boston: The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, volume 156, April 2002).

    4. [S309] Fraser, Antonia. The Lives of the Kings & Queens of England, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1975).

    5. [S278] Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, (web: http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html).

    6. [S63] von Redlisch, Marcellus Donald Alexander R. Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants volume 1 , (Cottonport, Louisiana: Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, 1941).